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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 18, 2016 8:28:03 GMT -4
Full summary and voice cast for XY&Z039- XY&Z038 screenshots: filb.de/anime/xyz/038, XY&Z039 preview video: filb.de/anime/xyz/039 and a special preview video for this arc : youtu.be/aDLz9sHvm5AUnderwhelming final match up, Alan won, I don't give a fuck Satoshi lost, it confirms what I said that they just wanted to get the Kalos League out of the way. I mean did you see that set up for the Flare Gang and Zygarde plot? Holy fuck, I'm excited and watching those previews makes me even more so. I can't wait. Different emotions will run through it; there will be the sense of danger from the red Zygarde and the evil plants, to sadness from Eureka's and Citron's tears.
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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 19, 2016 9:28:44 GMT -4
This right here speaks the truth. I am getting really fucking annoyed at the salt towards the Kalos League finals, it is just sad. People are even making bullshit false claims such as "Alan cheated" and "Satoshi was set-up to win" because they're so salty. Takuto defeating Satoshi in the Shinou League? Kotetsu defeating Satoshi in the Isshu League? Oh the anger people had for them don't even fucking compare. Can't those people just be glad that Satoshi finally made it to the finals of an in-game Pokémon League? I mean Satoshi himself was happy he had got that far. This here also speaks the truth (too bad not many will see this): azaleecalypso.tumblr.com/post/149172494150/just-to-be-clear-satoshi-was-set-up-to-lose-he
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Post by SeriousJupiter on Aug 23, 2016 3:32:12 GMT -4
I am done with the anime. Sorry, Don, but I completely disagree with you. Ash had a chance to win, he deserved to win and the writers fucked him over again. I don't give a shit about the Flare arc anymore. Sure, Ash will probably save the world again, big deal. He's done that many times before. I fucking HATE Alain. He won just because he's the generic older, "cool" Gary Stu character and because he thinks he had something to prove by winning and I can't believe some people are siding with him instead of the, oh, GODDAMN MAIN CHARACTER OF THE ANIME FOR 19 YEARS. What's more, he only entered the League because Ash suggested it, so it's the exact same thing that happened in Unova, except much, much worse because Ash never had a chance in Unova.
Seriously, what is the goddamn point of making Ash lose to the same guy three times?! Now that it looks like Alain won't be siding with Team Flare in the villain arc, it also means that Ash will never get another chance to beat him. And even if Alain did side with Team Flare and Ash beat him in a battle to save Kalos, it wouldn't mean shit to me because the League is already over. Alola doesn't have a traditional League, so this was Ash's last chance to win a real game League. I really thought he could do it this time.
Yes, I am angry about this and I have every right to be. I don't care what you say, this League ending was complete bullshit and I will quit watching the anime after XYZ. I'll watch the Flare arc because there is a minuscule chance that Alain will get what's coming to him (hopefully a slow, painful death), but I won't hold my breath for it. At least he'll realize he fucked up when he collected all that Mega Evolution energy for Lysandre, but I bet he'll get away with it because everyone loves him. Fucking asshole.
I doubt I'll have the motivation to write comments on episode guide threads anymore. Why should I bother, since I know what will happen later and when I could spend that time doing absolutely anything else? I might start watching some new shows whose writers don't hate their main characters. Maybe I'll read books. I've heard about books, I might give them a try. In fact, don't expect to see me again before the Flare arc is over. The reason why I only wrote this comment now was that I wouldn't sound as angry as I felt at first, but I guess I failed.
P.S. I do, in fact, watch other shows than Pokémon and I have read books before. I just wanted to try to sound humorous while ranting, quite possibly for the last time. Unless the Flare arc will somehow be even worse than the League finals, I'm sure I'll be more positive once I log in to make a comment about it in a few weeks. Later, guys.
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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 23, 2016 6:20:16 GMT -4
I am so humoured, not just by you, but by everyone who praised XY&Z and saw it as a big improvement over Best Wishes, now despising it. Hating it so much that it caused you lot to quit the Pokémon anime for good. Just one thing, one thing changed all of your minds in an instant. All XY&Z had to do was to become a Satoshi-worshipping series and have cool battles and you fools were all dragged in like a moth to a flame. Poor Best Wishes, all it had wanted to do was to entertain, but it got shunned by many for doing things differently, but all in all it was innocent. Best Wishes didn't throw everything at you, it just neatly handed it over to people, but the majority of it got thrown to the ground and stomped. XY&Z gave you everything you wanted, it worked, you were sucked in and then the moment finally arrived, you were on the edge of your seats.... ...And then it happened, soon shock, confusion, anger, it all spread in the Pokémon fandom. XY&Z had successfully brought misfortune to all of you. Meanwhile, as all this chaos is going on, I, who always knew the truth, am just sitting here like: Being part of that very, very small amount who did not care Satoshi lost in the Kalos League. After all the hell that I had witnessed, I'm glad Best Wishes was the way it was, I'm glad it was simple and not amazing, I'm glad not many people watched it. And thank god Kotetsu defeated Saotshi in the quarter finales of the Isshu League. Because that precious child doesn't deserve what Alan is currently getting. In fact most people were only upset at Kotetsu's win because he made a mistake, if he hadn't, the only ones who would be mad are those who dislike Kotetsu.
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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 24, 2016 6:01:17 GMT -4
On how bad this reaction is, there are many videos ranting about Satoshi losing in the Kalos League and look at the dislike bar for the next episode preview. The writers don't deserve this hate, the people you should be blaming are yourselves. It's you lot who gave your beings this false hope, not the writers, you. You set yourselves up for something good, but didn't consider the possibility that it might not go the way you wanted and thus didn't prepare for the opposite. Shame this had to happen, you lot couldn't see how amazing the set up to the Flare Gang and Zygarde plot was. They have never done something this insane. By the way I knew Satoshi was going to lose to Alan before it had happened. How did I know? Oh they played this version of XY&Z in the middle of the battle. The moment I heard it being played early into the battle and then it being followed by serious music soon after, I already prepared myself before it happened.
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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 25, 2016 5:01:08 GMT -4
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Post by biggles on Aug 25, 2016 9:11:46 GMT -4
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Post by Donkarasu on Aug 25, 2016 9:51:16 GMT -4
Woo, biggles is here and he has seen the light. XY&Z039 screenshots: filb.de/anime/xyz/039 and XY&Z040 preview video: filb.de/anime/xyz/040Do you know I was joking when I said "they wanted the Kalos League out of the way"? I always knew the Kalos League was a set up to this plot. I knew this for a while, I'm just late on it, but Puni-chan's Song returned for this episode and is most likely going to be back up until the arc is over. An amazing episode, it was a great opener on what's to come in this story, which I'm sure will be even more epic (going by the previews I have seen).
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Post by Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover on Aug 26, 2016 15:27:50 GMT -4
I'll just repeat here what I said on Bulbagarden about the newest JP episode:
"As everyone on these boards knows, I've grown to abhor the JP version in less than a year's time. With that in mind, Lysandre will not be responsible for the world's end: I will be for what I have to say about this episode.
It was very good.
See, one of my biggest problems with the JP version (the XY(Z) saga in particular) can be summed up in two words: "too much". As in, putting too much of everything (acting, music, etc) into situations that look even the absolute least bit dire. Well, now a city's being destroyed, a madman is enacting his plan, and one of the saviors Olympia prophecized is now in Team Flare's clutches. Things are looking very bad.
That right there justifies the over-everything that until now had been the JP version's Achilles' Heel. A dire situation like this needs it.
Of course, I'll still end up liking the dub of this episode better. However, supposing this arc keeps up like this, I could very well go back to my original mindset on the JP version: liking it a bit less than the dub, but not hating it.
My only problems with this episode are Squishy's JP voice is very annoying, and "Fleur-de-lis" really is not a suitable name for a villain.
And by the way, is anyone else getting "Legend of Korra" vibes from this arc in general?"
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Post by Donkarasu on Sept 1, 2016 18:34:42 GMT -4
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Post by Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover on Sept 1, 2016 18:58:19 GMT -4
Remember a week ago when I confessed to liking the episode that aired then? Well, this week's episode crushed all those hopes completely. Not just because of "XY&Z", though. That appearing in the episode merely annoyed me as usual. But there was a joyful-sounding piece of music when Alain had his breakdown. And then I hear they're giving Meowth his own ending.
I'm no longer standing for having the JP version build up hope within me and crush it like the sadistic devil it is. There I was thinking I could return to liking it just barely less than the dub, and then it does this and inspires me to return to my usual vengeful attitude toward it (and then some). This is the end.
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Post by Donkarasu on Sept 2, 2016 5:51:00 GMT -4
Remember a week ago when I confessed to liking the episode that aired then? Well, this week's episode crushed all those hopes completely. Not just because of "XY&Z", though. That appearing in the episode merely annoyed me as usual. But there was a joyful-sounding piece of music when Alain had his breakdown. 1. That was Satoshi-Gekkouga Pays a Visit and not XY&Z (give it a listen and learn the differences). And please don't chicken out of it because of, you know, it's better to judge it with the whole thing. 2. That music playing during Alan's breakdown was dramatic, I have no idea what you were hearing. A joyful song is something upbeat, something that makes you want to dance along. This one was a beautiful, flowing and emotional piece. Pikachu's Song, that's joyful. This? Tell me; did you feel like moving your body to the beat while Alan was crying in frustration? No? Exactly.
This arc has had the best scoring of music ever. I realized this is always the case when the Pokémon anime gets into something very serious and dramatic. They even played the Flare Gang battling music DURING A BATTLE AGAINST FLARE GANG. I can't believe there is one person who thinks it didn't fit with that. They also played the X&Y Legendary battle music in this episode, another song connected with the Flare Gang. It'll be a shame when/if TPCI removes them. Those songs have played in the anime before, but finally they are in a place were they truly belong. I am so glad they weren't forgotten about in the scoring.
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Post by Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover on Sept 2, 2016 12:31:33 GMT -4
2. That music playing during Alan's breakdown was dramatic, I have no idea what you were hearing. I heard a joyful/triumphant piece of music used at the worst possible moment. A joyful song is something upbeat, something that makes you want to dance along. This one was a beautiful, flowing and emotional piece. Pikachu's Song, that's joyful. This? Tell me; did you feel like moving your body to the beat while Alan was crying in frustration? Yes, it did. And it also made me laugh at Alain, despite truly not wanting to. This arc has had the best scoring of music ever. Had the best scoring of music ever. They even played the Flare Gang battling music DURING A BATTLE AGAINST FLARE GANG. I can't believe there is one person who thinks it didn't fit with that. Admittedly, that part worked out. They also played the X&Y Legendary battle music in this episode, another song connected with the Flare Gang. It'll be a shame when/if TPCI removes them. It'd be nice for me to return to my former "oh well" mindset about music replacement as opposed to the "HALLELUJAH!" mindset I've had for the whole XY saga. But be that as it may, this is the end of my viewing of the JP version. And I suggest you don't even try to change my mind, because I am not budging.
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Post by Donkarasu on Sept 2, 2016 16:43:05 GMT -4
Ugh, you don't even know what the music will be like in the next few episodes. You judge things too quickly.
Why don't you continue watching the rest of this arc instead of judging the whole thing from just two songs?
Previous episode, you praised all the music, while here you disliked only two. And you give up from just that?
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Post by Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover on Sept 2, 2016 17:03:53 GMT -4
Previous episode, you praised all the music, while here you disliked only two. And you give up from just that? Don't forget the announcement that Meowth's getting his own ending, meaning they're letting that serial ear-scratcher sing again. I had thought they'd have finally learned how to use their own music correctly, as evidenced by last week's episode. Now here we are, back to its usual mis-matching. As far as I've seen, anyway, since I stopped watching as soon as that track that technically isn't "XY&Z" but is still too similar to it started up. Did I mention Squishy's JP voice is still awful?
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