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Post by Donkarasu on Dec 26, 2016 20:14:47 GMT -4
New title and summary-
SM010: Will the Z-Move Work?! Challenging the Grand Trial!!
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Post by Donkarasu on Dec 30, 2016 7:11:40 GMT -4
Full summary and voice cast for SM009-
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 4, 2017 7:24:25 GMT -4
New title and summaries-
SM011: Satoshi Visits Kaki!
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 5, 2017 12:41:00 GMT -4
New titles and summaries- SM012: The Extracurricular Lesson is on Hidoide?!
SM013: The Great Alola Pancake Race!
SM014: The Fruit of Courage: Lilie and Rokon!Full summary and voice cast for SM010- SM009 screenshots: filb.de/anime/sm/009 and SM010 preview video: filb.de/news/pocket-monsters-sun--moon-folge-9-2816So the episode with Rocket Gang possibly catching a Hidoide, that's actually a very fitting Pokémon for them and here's hoping Kojiro gets it. No surprise on the egg Lilie was watching over hating into Rokon, Alolan Rokon to be more precise, as you saw Lilie with one in the SM poster.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 12, 2017 19:46:09 GMT -4
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Post by Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover on Jan 12, 2017 21:46:37 GMT -4
So, as everyone here knows, the Japanese XY saga royally pissed me off for many reasons which include (but aren't limited to) its awful music scoring, music quality, overacting or underacting, bland writing and bland characterizations. Overall, its attempt to be serious and exciting was too excessive, and as a result, it went from serious and exciting to annoying and over-melodramatic.
Sorry to bring that up again, but I had to, because this factors into something I've been feeling lately. Namely, the reason I've been enjoying the Japanese SM saga (though I'm still sticking to my "important episodes only" credo). I feel like that saga understood what its predecessor did wrong. Although it still has some of the same problems, it hasn't been messing up as badly, which makes for a more enjoyable experience overall. Even when today's episode made a musical mis-match during the scene where Pikachu gets pelted by Arm Thrust, I still got into that battle.
In the end, I'll still adhere to this saga's dub. But its original JP version has been doing just fine so far. I hope it keeps up.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 13, 2017 11:05:03 GMT -4
XY was fine, it's XY&Z when the series began to try hard and caused the fandom to over-hype it, which lead to a huge meltdown when THAT happened.
This series hardly took a break, it was just in your face for the majority of it and it's all due to Satoshi-Gekkouga and the constant Satoshi worshipping.
They were close to Gary-Stu level, but majority of people couldn't see it. They just were excited at the high chance of Satoshi winning the Kalos League.
You know when I said Satoshi's loss in Kalos League was worse than the Isshu League one? Well that both is and isn't a joke: It's a joke because the battle between Satoshi and Alan was great throughout it, whereas the one with Satoshi verses Kotestu was mediocre at the first part and only became exciting at the second part. However it isnt' a joke, because at least when Kotestu defeated Satoshi we didn't get a huge fucking disaster with the fandom, there were people who were mad about it and that's it. But when Satoshi lost to Alan in the Kalos League... just, wow. I've never seen the Pokémon fandom fallout so much over the Pokémon anime and they only have themselves to blame, they are the ones who over-hyped everything and mad up these bullshit statements that the writers 'promised Satoshi would win' when they didn't. The dislike bars in following episode previews and rant videos on Youtube were the worst part.
Of course I do blame the writers of XY&Z for doing way too much epic stuff, which is what caused the fandom to hype it up too much. This is why Diamond and Pearl was a great series as it would take breaks from any exciting moment, it never tried too hard, the fandom never over-hyped it and so when something big did happen, everyone was blown away by how amazing it was. This is what XY&Z should have been, but no, that series instead decided to be too in our faces.
The Sun & Moon series is already looking better than XY&Z. I mean we don't have Satoshi being treated like a special, close to Gary-Stu level, snowflake, yes, he did get recognized by Kapu-Kokeko, but the writers are just following the games in which the same thing happens with the player. Huh, now that I think about it, in the X & Y games the player is constantly praised and worship, while all non-playable characters (like your rival ) are constantly below you and have lacklustre characters, so perhaps this is were the constant Satoshi worshipping in the Pokémon anime series that took place in the region of Kalos came from.
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Post by andrewscott48209 on Jan 13, 2017 13:49:52 GMT -4
XY was fine, it's XY&Z when the series began to try hard and caused the fandom to over-hype it, which lead to a huge meltdown when THAT happened. This series hardly took a break, it was just in your face for the majority of it and it's all due to Satoshi-Gekkouga and the constant Satoshi worshipping. They were close to Gary-Stu level, but majority of people couldn't see it. They just were excited at the high chance of Satoshi winning the Kalos League. You know when I said Satoshi's loss in Kalos League was worse than the Isshu League one? Well that both is and isn't a joke: It's a joke because the battle between Satoshi and Alan was great throughout it, whereas the one with Satoshi verses Kotestu was mediocre at the first part and only became exciting at the second part. However it isnt' a joke, because at least when Kotestu defeated Satoshi we didn't get a huge fucking disaster with the fandom, there were people who were mad about it and that's it. But when Satoshi lost to Alan in the Kalos League... just, wow. I've never seen the Pokémon fandom fallout so much over the Pokémon anime and they only have themselves to blame, they are the ones who over-hyped everything and mad up these bullshit statements that the writers 'promised Satoshi would win' when they didn't. The dislike bars in following episode previews and rant videos on Youtube were the worst part. Of course I do blame the writers of XY&Z for doing way too much epic stuff, which is what caused the fandom to hype it up too much. This is why Diamond and Pearl was a great series as it would take breaks from any exciting moment, it never tried too hard, the fandom never over-hyped it and so when something big did happen, everyone was blown away by how amazing it was. This is what XY&Z should have been, but no, that series instead decided to be too in our faces. The Sun & Moon series is already looking better than XY&Z. I mean we don't have Satoshi being treated like a special, close to Gary-Stu level, snowflake, yes, he did get recognized by Kapu-Kokeko, but the writers are just following the games in which the same thing happens with the player. Huh, now that I think about it, in the X & Y games the player is constantly praised and worship, while all non-playable characters (like your rival ) are constantly below you and have lacklustre characters, so perhaps this is were the constant Satoshi worshipping in the Pokémon anime series that took place in the region of Kalos came from. You know what the Diamond and pearl series had that the XY(Z) series didn't have? An extra year. Had the XY(Z) series had that extra year, the pacing wouldn't have had to be rushed. And they would have had more time to further develop all of the characters. Also I don't think the writers are to blame for all the hype that there was concerning the League. We have all failed to think rationally that there was a chance Ash could still lose. As hard as Ash's loss to Alain was, at the very least, it wasn't a bullshit loss like the battle against Cameron. Seriously what kind of idiot would only bring 5 pokémon to a full battle at the league? At least with Alain, this was a battle between two experienced trainers battling it out. And it was exciting from start to end. I believe the people who watched the battle, as well as I, are to blame for all the fallout after the loss. We never entertained the thought that Ash could still lose, and if there was someone who said Ash might/would lose, we would ridicule them. We were so blind from the possibility of Ash winning, that we didn't see the whole story; that maybe Ash winning might have been worse for the Team Flare arc. Because if Ash won, later when Ash got captured, Alain's action, or his lack of action would have been mistaken for an act of revenge. Also, who can tell if Alain would have resented Ash for beating him. I've seen other series from other anime, where an arc would get dragged out because one character resented the other character. In fact, In Dragon Ball Z, Majin Buu hatched from his egg because of Vegeta's resent for Goku. He was so resentful of Goku because Goku had become even stronger than him, that he succumbed to Babidi's mind control as a way to shorten the gap between them. So if Ash beats Alain, the possibility of Alain being resentful, is decently high, especially since Alain felt he had to win to help Manon get her Chespin healed from its coma.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 13, 2017 21:02:36 GMT -4
I did just say the fandom only had themselves to blame for that discourse, because they never considered the possibility of Satoshi losing.
I blame the writers for doing too much in XY&Z, but I blame the fandom for over-hyping things up and not preparing for the other outcome.
Kotetsu is a scatterbrain, that's his character. I'm more bothered that people who were mad Satoshi lost to him actually forgot about this.
Also Kotetsu is in fact a good trainer, he just has that huge flaw of constantly forgetting things and being terrible with numbers (like time).
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Post by andrewscott48209 on Jan 13, 2017 22:21:07 GMT -4
I did just say the fandom only had themselves to blame for that discourse, because they never considered the possibility of Satoshi losing. I blame the writers for doing too much in XY&Z, but I blame the fandom for over-hyping things up and not preparing for the other outcome. Kotetsu is a scatterbrain, that's his character. I'm more bothered that people who were mad Satoshi lost to him actually forgot about this. Also Kotetsu is in fact a good trainer, he just has that huge flaw of constantly forgetting things and being terrible with numbers (like time). They did too much in XY&Z because they were only given one year to finish it up. Had they had that second year, they would have been able to flesh out other characters besides Ash and Greninja, like Noibat/Noivern. They would also be able to flesh out the rivalry between Ash and Alain better than it is. It's alright, but I would have liked to see Alain's other Pokémon before the league; even so, Ash did keep it very close. And he defeated all five of Alain's other pokémon beside Charizard, who he gave the best challenge out of all Alain's previous opponents. And you are right about Cameron. Though I still think it's bullshit that Riolu had evolved at the last hour. I believed they should have had it evolve before the league actually began.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 16, 2017 7:07:43 GMT -4
They did too much in XY&Z because they were only given one year to finish it up. Had they had that second year, they would have been able to flesh out other characters besides Ash and Greninja, like Noibat/Noivern. They would also be able to flesh out the rivalry between Ash and Alain better than it is. True. But you know what else would have helped flesh all that out? Ash-Greninja not being thing. Once it happened, everything else was pushed to the back. If Ash's Greninja never got a special transformation, the rest of Ash's team would've gotten more focus, also other characters would get better treatment too. Thank god Sun & Moon simply gave Ash a Z-Ring like every other character in the Alola region, none of that Gary-Stu level treatment will be present like in XYZ.
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Post by andrewscott48209 on Jan 16, 2017 11:50:25 GMT -4
They did too much in XY&Z because they were only given one year to finish it up. Had they had that second year, they would have been able to flesh out other characters besides Ash and Greninja, like Noibat/Noivern. They would also be able to flesh out the rivalry between Ash and Alain better than it is. True. But you know what else would have helped flesh all that out? Ash-Greninja not being thing. Once it happened, everything else was pushed to the back. If Ash's Greninja never got a special transformation, the rest of Ash's team would've gotten more focus, also other characters would get better treatment too. Thank god Sun & Moon simply gave Ash a Z-Ring like every other character in the Alola region, none of that Gary-Stu level treatment will be present like in XYZ. What about Diamond and Pearl when they gave Infernape a powered-up Blaze ability? Also, having the XY&Z stretch out over two years allows for better development of Ash and Greninja, while also giving Ash's other Pokémon further development and the chance to get stronger.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 16, 2017 19:42:46 GMT -4
That's different; Infernape at least got this whole story behind its powered-up Blaze ability, while Ash-Greninja came out of nowhere.
It's just "Hey look, Ash's Greninja has got a special transformation because Ash is the main character!" and that was basically all of it.
The other problem with this is the bonding between Ash and Greninja doesn't even properly start UNTIL Ash-Greninja became a thing.
With its past, the development should have stated from when it was a Froakie (just like Chimchar) but they leave that until it evolves.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 19, 2017 17:53:54 GMT -4
New summary from SM013: Full summary and voice cast for SM012- SM011 screenshots: filb.de/anime/sm/011 and SM012 preview video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5MCdFE9mEWell if Kojiro gets Hidoide, we will be getting the return of Kojiro's Pokémon injuring him when they are being affectionate towards him. SeriousJuptier was completely wrong about Kaki, he's nothing like Alan, for one he can be comical when he's being overprotective to his little sister.
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Post by Donkarasu on Jan 26, 2017 19:41:39 GMT -4
Full summary and voice cast for SM013- SM012 screenshots: filb.de/anime/sm/012 and SM013 preview video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNsEhhUAs2USo can you believe it? The Rocket Gang finally won a battle against Satoshi! Ah but of course, here comes Kieruguma to ruin their victory... and I loved all of it. We had Pokémon developing crushes on humans before (almost all of them were with Satoshi) but with Hidoide towards Kojiro, it has straight up lust for him. This is officially my favourite Rocket Gang team. Mimikkyu, Hidoide and, yes I am counting it as a team member (it's like Nyasu) Kiteruguma are all just amazing.
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