That makes me think of an interesting obsevration - that the writers for BW really didn't know how to write extended battles at all. Think how many of the battles were just flat one-on-one over and over and over; even the gym battles were mostly pretty understated too.
They don't completely change the writing staff each season. A lot of them have been around since Kanto. Though the writers for this battle didn't particularly have any experience writing battles with full battles. In terms of just League battles, the writer of the first part wrote Ash's Indigo League match with Jeanette (the one with the Bellsprout), the very end of Ash's battle against Harrison when it was just Charizard vs Blaziken, and one of the double battles from the Hoenn League (Corphish and Torkoal vs Swalot and Tropius). And the writer for part 2 had only written Ash's match against Nando as a league battle at this point. And I'll just say he wrote both parts of another full battle at a later point. There's probably more battles they've done, like maybe some gym battles, but I'm not going to look up everything they wrote.
Which makes it all very strange, since the ones of those I remember (like the one against Jeanette or the battle against Nando) I thought were pretty good.
Perhaps the magic Stupid Air of Unova is so potent it actually permeates across the meta-dimensional barriers to infect the writers..?
BW's obession with one-on-ones (or at the least focus given to them) still seems equally bizarre.
Post by Aotrs Commander on Oct 14, 2016 21:13:28 GMT -4
As I've now got the DVDs, time to start watching the DP movies seeing if they hold up to the series...
Giratina and the Sky Warrior
(Because I could have sworn blind that was the first one of the four but couldn't be bother to check, nevermind... *skulldesk*)
Yeah, yeah... That... that was pretty damn good actually. I think that one actually ramps up with being among the best, I think.
Shaymin was absolutely fracking hiliously an dick, the bad guy was completely off his rocker... But he had a really cool narly-starship wot fired death lazors and it all ended with a fight that literally wouldn't have gone amiss in Flash Gordon. (All you'd have needed was a Pokémon voiced by BRIAN BLESSED shouting "ASH'S ALIVE!" and it would have been perfect!)
Dawn reminds me why she is... Arguably the best female companion out of the whole lot. And why that the Ash/Dawn/Brock/too many Pokémon to list dynamic worked so very well. I don't think before or since have the companions ever had quite so a close-knit group.
I loved the little touches like Shaymin's vocalisations one her (I'm gonna go ahead and assume it was a female, because screw legendary nongender) attacks being laregly independant of her telepathy. Heck, it's nice to see a telepathci Pokémon again, haven't seen one for a while (bearing in mind it's been AGES since I wacthed movie 8 and I will have to go back to Rise of Darkrai...!)
Yeah. Yeah nothing to complain about that, not at all.
Post by Aotrs Commander on Oct 15, 2016 6:03:35 GMT -4
I will do. I HAD intended to watch all four in order (having ordered them all at the same time), but I just got my wires crossed. (I think partly because I hgad to get Giratina from a seller, not Amazon itsewlf, so I was aiting longer for that one and that somehow translated into "that's the first one" despite looking at the lists several times...)
Post by Aotrs Commander on Oct 16, 2016 8:48:11 GMT -4
Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures! Off to Kanto, then apparently. Actually, I thought it was rather nice of Juniper to get them the tickets - one whould have to say a nice cruiser to Kanto is a fair reward for saving the fucking world. AGAIN. Since, y'know, Ash does that on a regular basis. (And for all the freeloading jokes the guide makes, one has to kind of observe that actually, keeping Ash on the road and doing what he does it probably the single most worthwhile investment the governments of the world could ever make, since he continues to regularly let their still BE governments - and a world!)
Also, Oshawatt saves the day. Sort of.
Danger, Sweet as Honey! Fairly mediocre for what is ostensibly a "Pokémon on their own," but Pikachu - after all the betrayals and that last time with the substation that Mewoth really conned them all - being absolutely unconvinced the whole way through mase something up for it.
Cilan and the Case of the Purrloin Witness! CSI Cilani. Seriously, though; givent eh anture of these mysteries on ostensibly children's shows, this one was actually plausible and neither instantly blindingly obvious nor so convoluted as be nonsensical.
Crowning the Scalchop King! So, what about Samuarott, then? Bigots. And... what a horrible king and queen that island must have. I'd say fo Oshawatt to take heart, for soon he;ll be stuck at the ranch, but I don't think Ash HAS any female water-types. The Island of Illusions! I'm 99% Ash was just taking the piss on purporse with the whole Nurse Joy/Audino bit. And I'm pretty sure that means Zoroark can speak Eng- Jap... Human, since it had no problem convincingly doing so as Nurse Joy, so why bother implying it can't otherwise...? It's literally not even like Pokémon that can talk is all THAT shocking at this point (to us anyway), given Meowth is around all the time.
(I'd give my eye-teeth for Bayleef learning to talk so that when Ash finally gets back to Kanto, she can give him a of her mind. I said mind, get yer minds outta the gutter!)
To Catch A Rotom! Prof Oak is nearly as lightning proof as Ash... And apprently about as adept at catching Pokémon. Like father, like secret child or something, I guess...
The Pirates of Decolore! What I mostly took away from this is Charizard obviously took fracking ninja training at the Charifici Valley. Because that's the only explanation as to how a ruddy great orange dragon on fire can so deftly sneak up on things. Am I surprised by this? Hell no, motherfucking Charizard!
Butterfree and Me! So do Butterfree's arc all over again, compressed down and we don't even have the uumph to get Butterfree to show up? *sigh*
However - let's also note that the week they spent here pretty much pisses on the "everything since episode one has happened in less than a year. Because unless the years on Pokémon-Earth are longer than regular-Earth... Actually, even if that's true, it makes Ash older than ten anyway in normal year, it'd just be his culture using a different timescale. But Occum's Razor says more likely that the whole "he's ten" thing is just bollocks and a symptom of the poor writing especially at the start of BW.).
The Path That Leads to Goodbye! I actually really liked this episode. It showed, for one thing, who the little kid in the group is and hey, y'know what? It isn't Ash. I am reminded of probably my favourite quote from C S Lewis:
To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. [...] When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
And that's basically Iris. She wants to think she's mature, but really, she is actually less so than Ash.
Ash, I noticed, knew he'd screwed up instantly. We can joke about his obliviousness all the time, but the truth is, he can be pretty perceptive. I thought that was a nice touch and a divergeance from the usual cliches this sort of thing generally uses. He knew he needed to apologise, but y'know what? It's not always easy; we've all been there. And it's something that only gets a little easier as you get older. The fact they made it more about him trying to work himself up to having to do it more than the need to do it a all was really nicely done, I thought.
His attempt with the berry/apple was, I thought, rather a realistic attempt to aplogise through action, rather than words (which is very Ash); it's a pity Iris flew off the handle when it backfired. And over the night, Ash was clearly deeply bothered by her going off. I think it was quite clear he knew, in is heart, he had to go and make up, but wasn't sure how; whether he was trying to work himself up into doing so or, unsuccessfully trying to convince himself she'd be alright on her own or something might be more open for debate. But it didn't take much prompting from his team and Cilan to make him get his head together. ('Cos they all knew he would eventually.)
(Charizard getting in on it was actually really kind of meaningful, I thought. Charizard himself having been on the recieving end of Ash's unquestioning forgiveness during that difficult time when he was so fractious. Charizard, then, best out of all of Ash's Pokémon, knew that Ash was going to do it before long, because that's just Ash - but sometimes his trainer needs a little nudge when dealing with humans as opposed to Pokémon!)
And in the end, it was Ash who apologised first. Credit to Iris, she did as well and as whole-heartedly, but it was Ash that made the first move.
So yeah, I thought this episode really worked well and - for once- actually had a good message for the children. Apologising is sometimes hard, but you just have grit your teeth and do it.
Searching For A Wish! I never though about it before, but being a Jirachi is absolutely shitting HORRIFYING. A week every thousand years? How long to they live? A twenty-active-year lifespan, for example, would span a million years. The world would basically new completely different each time you awoke. (As a species, Jirachi have probably only just started noticing these hu-mons in the last couple of months...) Maybe froma sort of "always new to explore" sor of way it'd be... Something, but from every other aspect it's... Grim as fuck.
And again, this brings us to TWO weeks Ash and co have been fracking around in this period. If they are trying to push the whole "still only ten" thing, that's an awful lot of time to waste on non-episode days...
Mega Revelations! and The Cave of Trials! Not bad. Mind you, I tend to find any character voiced by Lisa Oriz gains a bit of boost, because there's just something about her voice that I find engaging (like Jennifer Hale).
(I was, incidently, stunned flat when I looked up and found out she voiced Oshawatt. I'd never have guessed! Points for her!)
And any episode with a Blaziken in it is a good one...
At least the first gym leaders of Kalos are already better than a large chunk of the Unova ones...!
I just accept the still being 10 thing as something like comic book time, or how other cartoons like the Simpsons have gone on for so long, with dozens or hundreds of episodes, including multiple holiday and/or birthday stories, and they're still the same age.
Trying to put all the experiences in an actual time frame just doesn't seem important. It's the experiences themselves.
Post by Aotrs Commander on Oct 16, 2016 21:09:56 GMT -4
Rise of Darkrai
Yeah. That was another pretty good one. I like that this movie basically was the cause of the next one as well (now I understand some more context). Somebpdy needs to give Dialga and Palkia a good slapping...
Bonus points for Darkrai-as-hero; even though I figured it out fairly fast, it did it credibly well (though in my case, my thoughts of Darkrai were somewhat coloured by the appearance of the Darkrai in the series (which was being a shit) and Tobias' one). The Darkrai-as-Batman at the end there was rather amusing, though... But I guess evil doers are a superstitious lot, so a thing that is like, actual nightmares would work pretty well in that regard...
(So presumably Darkrai's nemesis is an insane Mr Mime...?)
That said, I think the problem was the heroes were little bit passive, until right at the end there. There was a little bit too much of "gawp at the fighting legends" and not "do the fuck something" so I think, on balance, Giratina was the better of the two so far.
But... that's splitting hairs; this was pretty good and I'm hopeful for the next couple!
Jirachi probably goes through some Sleeping Beauty magic effect where it's 'not alive' during the thousand years, but the week is the only time its lifespan even matters.
I wasn't even considering any kind of perception of time while aslepp. But just imagien that every week of your time is vastly different, ina new place. All the people you met last week are gone and forgotten (probably even any Ninetails) and even the places are likely to be dradstically different. There is no continuity, no stability, only a few glimpses at an ever-changing world you can vists but never truly be at home in.
And the last batch of BW:
Capacia Island UFO! At first blush, I thought this was going to be just another dull episode following a similar vein to the others with Beeheeyem or Elygem.
And then it turned into something really awesome, with the whole invasion of the face-snatchers, Ash with Team Rocket. All through the episode, I was expecting the that amulet coins they found were what kept them unaffected...
And then came the "idiots are hard to hypnotise!" line. And I had to pause the video, because both the delvery and the reaction shot were absolutely priceless. It was about five minutes before I calmed down enough to be able to carry on.
(And I really needed that laugh too; earlier we'd got the bad news one of Dad's mate had died, barely two weeks after we'd met him at the park and he'd said he was ill.)
So, yes, I really liked this one.
The Journalist From Another Region! Finally, some context for Alexa. Having started on XY, I had no idea how she'd met Ash... In fact, the first episode I saw, I had made the assumption she was the person who beat Ash in the League, Harrison-style (dude who beat him in Johto!) (Giving you too mcuh credit, BW, clearly...!)
Nice pretty much final-hour for Pignite (since at this point, it was clearly getting to winding down for the Unova characters).
Mystery on a Deserted Island! I actually warmed to Alexa quite quickly (not that I'd had anything against her in XY or anything), but as a temporary travelling companion, she was definitely one of the betters ones, and a darn sight better than any of the recurring characters (aside from Stephan) this arc.
Also, Ninetails are always fun.
I'm ashamed to admit, I didn't pick-up on them all being stone-evolutions until basically the found the treasure!
A Pokémon of a Different Color! Apparently there is a "one female in skin tight clothing per episode" limit. And I checked; Claire was wearing less than in her earlier appearance. Uhuh. Cam't IMAGINE why that would be...
I felt it a little odd they set up the Dragonites and then sort of never bothered to do anything with that. (I mean, I know Cilan was shipping like crazy), but there wasn't even really a sort of mutual understaning thing going on. Felt like a bit of a shame.
Celebrating the Hero's Comet Ash, you've encountered enought actual ghosts by this point, you really shouldn't be surprised.
Go, Go Gogoat! I think the thing I took away from this episode was that even ASH and co know what a complete fuckwit Jenny is, so they arefully got her to "stay in twon in case he comes back" to keep her out of their way, while tey did her fucking job for her again...
Team Rocket's Shocking Recruit! Emolga is absolutely hilariously awesome and Snivy is still the Best. This was a delightful swan-song for the pair of them as characters.
Survival of the Striaton Gym! Okay. Again with the "only one skin-tight female per episode thing." Also, Cilan... When the obvious dominatrix says next time you meet she's going to beat you... I would start getting worried, or at least make sure you have plenty of protection and come up with a safe word... Otherwise, this was a nice wrap-up to Cilan's arc (I guess Iris' was kinda Pokémon of a Different Colour). Best Wishes Until We Meet Again! Alexa, you so silly. And foruntately, Snivy is smarter than her trainer, although honestly, that's not difficult...!
The Dream Continues! Ash comes home and immediately leaves. Seems legit.
Honestly though, despite all the jokes about it, I'm really starting to wonder about Ash's father... Because seriously he and Ash are so terribly alike! (And I am basically convined that Oak and Delia are, if not actually knocking boots, rather close friends.)
(In all seriousness; if Oak was Ash's father, there's a very plausible reason to keep it on the low-down... The whole Celebi thing. What if Oak, having started a relationship with a younger lass (perhaps after getting over the death of his wife), realised when she got pregnant... That this boy was going to that very same Ash? And that he was afraid that if he took an active role he might somehow, subconciously guide Ash into being what he met that one time and that he wanted Ash to grow into his own person? There's a certain twisted logic!)
And Team Rocket. Really. You are going to attack Ash directly when he basically has EVERY POKEMON HE HAS immediately to hand? youre just lucky they stopped with just the Unova Pokémon and not all of them!
This was a LOT better than I thought when I saw the odd episode (especially from some of the early epiodes). It was a bit variable in quality. The nadir was definitely the League (counter to normally where it's usually the high-point), though the continuous one-on-one in every competition got very weraing very fast. The series DEFINITELY suffered for the lack of something else - like contests - to do, to break up the "plot" gym episodes.
Doubly-so as for the first bulk where Team Rocket was not being very interesting and aside from once (with the long set-up of Meowth's faked defection) their arcs didn't work so well until the last one. Competant Team Rocket (like against Team Plasma) is quite welcome... Unfun Team Rocket... Really not so much. Coming in, I never thought I'd say it - not being a big Team Rocket fan at all - but I missed their shananians wen they were being all serious. (But I definiately do NOT mind them not showing up every episod. Squeezing them in for one qucik scene and a blast off never added anything to an episode in my opinion.)
The rivals were pretty meh on the whole, with onyl Stephan really being up to much. Trip was fracking dreadful and ultimately meaningless. I've spoekn at length about Cameron already and Virgil was the usual "older chap who beats Ash," whioch thus far only Sinnoh has broken. I think it would have been much better for Ash to have been knocked out by Stephan - like the Contest Finale with Dawn and Zoey - because then we would have Ash losing to an actual friend who we could get behind having won. (I think it telling that Trip, Ash's supposed Paul/Gary for the season, got ko'd before him.)
Otherwise, I would have said that either Trip or Cameron should have been dropped (preferably Trip!) and the other taken over his role, because I think that would have just been better narratively.
Alexa was fun, and again I think she could have benefitted from a slightly earlier introduction.
The Pokémon character-work was excellent, outstanding awards to Snivy, Emolga and Oshawatt. I did feel that this lot wasn't quite so close knit as a famlily as the Sinnoh team were, where I think they did a particularly good job. I think a few more Pokémon-interaction episodes would have been fun as well.
They brought back bloody Charizard as a rgular, and that only made the post-league worth it.
The high points were very high - some of the funniest moments with perfect pay-off that I can think of; onat least a couple of occasions I had to pause the episode while I laughed so hard.
I think the animation got much better towards the end, I'm sure they were using slightly less of the stock-attack shots and dong a bit more dynamic stuff. (And was Ash subtly getting more tanned towards the end of the Delcour Islands, because he is a bit more tanned in XY? I'd have to check.)
As to the companions:
Iris was alright. I think she was perhaps a bit too childish (with great irony) and I can see how people could find her grating; but she had her moments.
Cilan was, to me, the surprise success. From what little I'd seen of him in the scattered episodes, I was less than impressed. But seeing him in all his various states, he grew on me rather a lot. I also liked that so much was made of his battling skills; unlike Brock, who while a capable battler, never got quite the notority for it as much. I mean, Cilan got the rare privildge of beating the Designed (if crap) Rivak at least once. His people skills were also quite well show-cased as mediator. And credit to Pansage, the little guy mixed it up with some serious opposition (including legendaries!) While I don't think anyone could quite ever replace Brock, Cilan can stand tall, having done a grand job.
The music was - as is often the case - excellent. I particularly liked the game music for BW and as always, the anime takes the game music and amps it up to eleven. It is a crying tragedy that the soundtrack for the series is not out, since those anime battle music track were fantasic and could have stood to be a little louder, come to that.
So overall, not bad. Was it the best series? no. Was it the worst? Well... I'm honestly not sure I can say it was overall. The early Johto crawl probably takes that prise, with so many rather banal fillers (contests were a genious idea, it gave the Twerps something to do between gym battles!) The hgih point were very good, and really the low point was the invenitable League problems.
Am I gald I watched it? Definitely. My fears upon starting though this series were unfounded, it wasn't anything like the slog I though it was.
So, that brings me pretty much the the end of my archival binge. After binging through DP, Battle Frontier and BW, I will now continue at a more sedate pace through XY and the movies on DVD. (Blither updates will perforce be slower!)
Sadly, it also pretty much brings me to the end of the main Pokemopolis guides. (Perhaps until when I eventually go back and pick-up my aborted "watch from start on DVD" I left part-way through Johto!)They have been very fun, and certainly have added a dimension to the proceedings (though I'll continue to read the one on the forums as I find them for XY episodes.)
A Pokémon of a Different Color! Apparently there is a "one female in skin tight clothing per episode" limit. And I checked; Claire was wearing less than in her earlier appearance. Uhuh. Cam't IMAGINE why that would be...
Isn't she wearing the same thing she wore the last time she appeared?
Back when they updated her look to have her HGSS design.
Post by SeriousJupiter on Oct 19, 2016 13:50:25 GMT -4
It was a joy reading your BW reviews, AC, and I'm looking forward to reading your upcoming ones for the rest of XY. It's not like there are any new actual episode guides here. I agree with many things you said, although unlike you, I can say with certainty that BW was the worst series and I can only hope that Sun and Moon won't sink to its level. There's a difference between light-hearted comedy and bad writing that makes no sense. Yes, Ash is still 10 in Sun and Moon, but so what? He's immortal and indestructible and he loves being a Pokémon Trainer, so as long as he's happy, I'm fine with him not aging. The only thing I want from SM is Ash to not become a total noob again.
I also agree with you about the DP movies. In my opinion, they are the best Pokémon movies. I do have a lot of nostalgia for the first four Pokémon movies, the fifth one was okay, the Advanced Generation movies were... somewhat lackluster, actually, and the Unova movies were even worse, except maybe the Genesect one. That one wasn't half-bad. Anyway, NONE of them are nearly as good as the DP movies. My all-time favorite is Arceus and the Jewel of Life. I think you'll agree with me after you've seen it. Even if you won't think it's your favorite Pokémon movie, you'll probably consider it an epic conclusion to the DP movie trilogy and one of Ash's finest moments ever. The Zoroark movie is pretty great too.
P.S. I thought Johto started out well. It only got boring half-way through for me. IIRC, I stopped watching the show for a couple of years after the episode where Brock's Zubat evolved. The next episode I saw after that was the episode where the twerps met Steven Stone in Hoenn.
Post by Aotrs Commander on Oct 24, 2016 22:30:19 GMT -4
Well what fitting way to conclude one's birthday than with a good movie! From the prior movies (and nothaving seen SeriousJupiter's post abobe until IO was about to start typing this), my hopes were high (I had some vague idea of what events might transpire, on account of an allosion in my favourite pokémon fanfiction, Ashes of the Past, and it sounded pretty good.)
Train-of-thought-y here, as I feel that best encapsulates the experience. Arceus and the Jewel of Life
Okay, so some idiot is picking a fight with God, that seems ridiculously stupid- oh, there we go; yeah, couldn't see that happening at all...
Two idiots pick a tag battle with Ash and Dawn, they are going to get such an ass-kicking.
Yep. Yep, they did. Nice!
Okay so... Wait.
Is... is that... Is that... continuity?
I mean, having watched the first two out of order (the ONE TIME EVER it actually mattered) I'd retroactively picked up the call backs to Giratina being pissed at Palkia was tied to Rise of Darkrai but...
So, Sheena can connect to the hearts proper-like...
But Ash just needs to shout at stuff and it's all good. And Giratina I like "oh, it's Ash, well, I'mma gonna stop right now, because that dude is frickin' my awesome mate!" (Like to see N do that. Actually, no, I'd like to see N see ASH do that.)
Okay, so exposition of what the frack has been happening and why this is a trilogy. Followed by how-in-the-hell-are-they-doing-that magic-water-slide-show of the legend. And yes, Arceus confirmed as fracking God.
And God is awake and angry. And, y'know, entirely not unreasonably, because Damos, dick move, man. Stupid dick move at that.
Also, God sounds a lot different to what I expected. Not the typical deep sort of voice you tend to hear as the voice of god or Zeus or Zordon or Entei or whatever, more... Nasaly is the wrong word, but higher, more... Actually kinda vicious-y sort of sounding. And y'know what? I like that.
Well on the other hand, Sheena seems to have well in hand (literally, in the case of the orb). Kudos for Arceus actually stopping to listen as well. (I hstre it when things don't communicate.) Huh, well, that all seems to be pretty much sorted, presumably this is the point the crazy legendary villains shows up and-
And now God is fighting three other legendaries at once and wow, they are lucky the pixie plate isn't around yet. (I'd love to know how they explained that one in canon, if they ever did. Ashes of the Past explained it by having Ash break time... Again.)
Did Pikachu just fuckinglightning bolt God?
Did Pikachu just fucking lightning bolt God and it worked?!
Did Piakchu just fucking lightning bolt God and it worked and do more damage than three legendaries combined?!?
I love this movie.
Aaaaaaand time travel.
Guys, maybe you should do something to stop Damos before he... Alrighty, then.
(Wait, how are they speaking the same langauge?)
Don't look Bronzong in the eyes, you idiots -too late.
Pichu - spikey-eared pichu - oh please not let this be the ancestor of the Pichu twins.
Well, Pikachu and Piplup didn't take long to escape.
Hah! Those dimwits didn't take their pokéballs off them (and why would they)? Breaking out won't take long, will it now?
Wait, Damos is in the cell?
Wait, Damos is the good guy?
Holy shit, Arceus and the Jewel of Life, did you just skillfully and plausible plot twist?
I... With the hypnosis and foreshadowed and them realising instantly what was going on and Ash proving they were from the future with Monferno and...
This movie is pretty smart.
(And that comment in Ashes of the Past that when they went back in time, they probably coined the term Pokémon and were responsible for the whole pokéball imagery suddenly makes a frightening amount of sense. I think Ash just queitly broke time again.)
Exposition flashback of what actually happened, to show Damos ain't shittin' us. I might have complained about them basically telling the same story twice but... It was a well-done flashback. (Naruto take note. Yes, you DO need to take notes from a nominally children's show how to do flashbacks right. Yes, you should feek ashamed.)
Time to break out - well, okay, you could just use the key instead of the other, like, thirteen magical creatures at your immediate disposal...
Oh... oh shit, Marcus is smart enough to quiz Sheena (who is a bit trusting, but oh well) and figure out that lightning and rocks aren't enough to kill God. (Um, duh?) I... am not liking the sound of "silver water..."
And it's time.
Whelp, that went about as well as expected. And here comes the "silver water." Mercury, maybe? Wait, no, it's solidifying. Okay, it's not molten, so... I dunno. I think the major thing to take away is that this is Bad.
And here comes Our Hero. Marcus, mate, you are going to get SUCH an Ash-kicking.
Damos and Sheen have the important job of Trying To Calm Everymon The Fuck Down.
And there we go, Ash! Kick his arse hard!
No, wait, what? Ash, Dawn! This is not a Pokémon battle! Get the rest of them out! You literally out-number them by five to one!
Okay, fortunately, the Conveniantly Placed Gen II Starters (and fuck-ton of Ratatta) are here to help save the day. (Eh, Pikachu and Piplup would'a taken 'em before long.)
And everymon is Calmed The Fuck Down just in time, now they've just got to Calm God The Fuck Down.
THERE we go, Ash; go on, kick 'im in the voonerables!
Or, okay, go all action-hero and grab the jewel of life, that works too.
Marcus, there is literally, like a dozen people and Pokémon watching you. You are not going to be able to sneak off, fuckwit.
How much "silver water" did you fucking use, Marcus? Where was it all being kept?!
Um. Arceus, now would be a good time (literally, time is unravelling)... Damos, hurry it up. C'mon... C'mon...
Oh, thank frack.
MORE Silver water? Enough to make the place collapse? Marcus... how were you planning to not get killed with this plan?
Yeah, not really worried now that god is literally on hand.
Haha, it is heavily implied Marcus got killed in the temple collapse. Well, serves him right.
All's well that ends well! Back the present where everything should be...
Wait, no, if all else fails, we can resort to good, old fashioned, Ash Shouts At Stuff. "Connecting to the hearts of Pokémon" my arse, Ash can do that by yelling for people to Calm The Fuck Down.
Because he's Ash Motherfucking Ketchum, and when he shouts for you to Clam The Fuck down, you do it, even if you're fucking God.
(He's also learned to not jump in front of the attacks after that first time...)
And whoop, there goes the timeline, all fixed!
(And any chance of Team Rocket accidently saving the day goes as well, which is probably for the best...)
Job's a good'un.
And we finished with seeing the folks from the last two movies (just to underline all the continuity) and I choose to pretend the sulky guy in the background of Damos' bit is not Marcus, but his twin borther Sucram, because Marcus is totally dead. (Wouldn't be surprised if that was added in the US localisation...)
Okay, so today, Ash met God, travelled back in time to alter history and probably on Pokémon and pokéballs and saw four legendaries go at it hammer and tongs (and three of them out-done by Pikachu).
So, yeah. That... that was fracking awesome. Individually, I'm not sure I'd qualify these as the best movies (Ash riding a charizard, fighting a legendary is hard to top), but as a trilogy - yeah, they can have that crown, not least because they WERE a trilogy.
More like this, please!
So yes. It can be safely said that DP generation is the best overall, because even the movies were a cut above the rest!
Donkarasu: Nobody said you can't like it, it's just you keep on reminding us that you hate it.
Dec 3, 2018 18:09:20 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: It's out of bafflement at how much worse it got. Plus, I'm still reeling from M21. Over the course of the month (as the gap between experiences with that music and not experiencing it will be growing), this'll die down.
Dec 3, 2018 19:46:12 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Generally, my vitriol toward the JP music is in proportion to how recently I experienced it and how much of it was included in that recent experience. That and its quality (or lack thereof).
Dec 4, 2018 1:43:13 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Experiencing (most of) an entire movie full of his noise made for pure wrath.
Dec 4, 2018 1:49:35 GMT -4
Donkarasu: So Veronica Taylor will be voicing two characters in Dragon Ball Super,
Dec 4, 2018 19:15:45 GMT -4
Donkarasu: I want to say I love how much the Japanese version of the Sun & Moon Pokémon anime series is playing with the "Who is it?" eye catch part, like in the recent episode having to Skull Gang members arguing over it in both before and after the ad break.
Dec 5, 2018 18:53:04 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Considering Ribrianne's infamous reputation in the DB Super fandom, I'm a bit worried, but not that much. She'l put on an amazing show, that's without a doubt! Plus this isn't Veronica's first rodeo with DB.
Dec 6, 2018 0:07:31 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: I remember her voicing a blind kid who was healed by Fat Buu back in Z. And that must've been like, almost 20 years ago I think!
Dec 6, 2018 0:08:07 GMT -4
Donkarasu: It's funny, despite Ribrianne getting so much hate (not me, I think she's an entertaining character and love the Magical Girl parody Toei added with her and her team mates) people were excited to hear that Veronica Taylor was voicing Ribrianne.
Dec 6, 2018 6:04:19 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: In a way though. I personally have no problem with her and think her magical girl parody is hilarious and her transformation is meant to look hideous that even in-universe Vegeta couldn't bring himself to punch her when she tried to use Rollout on him.
Dec 8, 2018 0:28:31 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Though considering how much screentime she soaks up, I can see where most of the complaints come from. Then again, one can say the same thing about the Saiyans (U6 and U7) so who am I to complain? Haha.
Dec 8, 2018 0:29:21 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: I think the forum's banner pic should be changed to Tsareena's butt closeup from today's episode. Pokemopolis thrives on easy-to-take-out-of-context stuff like that.
Dec 8, 2018 18:08:39 GMT -4
Donkarasu: So have been hearing Movie 21 has a heart warming story, it's not another movie that shoehorns in a Mythical and/or Legendary Pokémon for the sake of views, but rather their use in the plot is respectable, all characters get to do something notable, etc.
Dec 9, 2018 9:41:38 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: While that's true, it did still default to the whole "mythical/legendary hates humans until it meets Ash and friends" formula. Some parts of the old formula just had to stick around.
Dec 10, 2018 21:52:31 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Everything else was fresh and well-done, though. And though I trash the music (the only weak point of the movie, and boy is it an Achilles' Heel; that is except for the dub's ending song), the movie itself is spectacular.
Dec 10, 2018 21:54:07 GMT -4