Post by SeriousJupiter on Feb 25, 2016 20:00:00 GMT -4
Pokémon Sun and Moon? Nice. I was wondering what sort of legendaries they could possibly come up with after Land, Sea, Sky, Time, Space, God, Devil, Truth, Ideals, Life, Death and Balance, but it seems I was worried over nothing. I just hope the Sun and Moon legendaries won't be equines, because that most likely wouldn't end well.
Post by Donkarasu on Sept 13, 2016 17:10:27 GMT -4
The Pokémon Company has announced a new series of shorts called Pokémon Generations. These shorts will go live on Youtube weekly through to December 23rd 2016 and will last 3 to 5 minutes. They will feature various timeless moments from each generation of Pokémon games. Pokémon Generations is to consist of 18 episodes. The first two launch September 16th
Post by SeriousJupiter on Sept 17, 2016 12:49:49 GMT -4
Goddamnit, don't tell me the only player character we're going to see in these is Red. That first video certainly looked that way. I hope I'm wrong, because I can't stand Red's fans. Reading that video's comments was torture. Why can't those morons realize that Red is not a real character like Ash, because WE, the players, are all Red. That's why he was allowed to use his whole team against Gym Leaders and how he beat the Elite Four so easily in Pokémon Origins. If he had been following the same anime rules as Ash, Brock and Giovanni (and presumably every other Gym Leader as well) would have kicked his cheating ass multiple times over. The whole point of Pokémon Origins was to show what the anime would be like if it worked exactly like the games, and that's exactly why those fucking Redsuckers shouldn't compare it to the main series.
Anyway... Assuming that Red won't be the only player character who will appear in these videos and that I will have the willpower to not read the comments, I might actually enjoy Pokémon Generations. The first two episodes weren't really bad at all. Reading the comments just pissed me off so much that I had to vent.
Ash has had a couple of gym battles where they used a different amount than the leader. He needed a full team to beat Roxie, and 3 Pokemon to defeat Grant's 2. His rematch with Whitney was 3 on 1. And Haunter in Ash's rematch against Sabrina was at worst counted as Ash's second Pokemon against Kadabra when he was already using Pikachu, and at best a third party that still influenced Ash earning a badge.
And I don't think the player characters will really be showcased outside of maybe cameos. I think the point of Generations will be to showcase events from other characters' perspectives. In the first episode's case, we never really get a good look at Red's face, it's usually shadowed, covered, or turned away. The focus was on his Pikachu, and the point of using Red for all six generations was just to indicate that it's the same Pikachu going through all these things. Since it's episode 1, it's possibly also supposed to be symbolic of Generations as a whole that it'll be going through the various generations. We the players will be going through everything, or already have, just like Pikachu.
So best case scenario, we'd probably get minor appearances of other player characters in shorts that focus on rival characters. Like we know Red will show up in the short about how Blue became champion (not sure if we'll even see their battle or if it'll just be about only what we didn't see). Maybe stuff like some focus on Silver like as he's rethinking his way with some mentions or visuals on his battles with Gold/Ethan, or how Wally got through Victory Road and ends up meeting Brendan/May at the end. Or in the case of other supporting characters, since we do know we'll see Cheryl in one short we might see what she was up to in Eterna Forest right before meeting with Lucas/Dawn.
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Post by Aotrs Commander on Sept 24, 2016 15:44:52 GMT -4
Can't say as I'm very struck with Generations, myself. Aside from the not-being-the-anime... There's no investment in the characters. The battles... are bleh because they don't show anything than more than one attack. It all smacks a bit too much to me of shouting "look how cool I iz" over anything else. Or at the very least, taking itself FAR to seriously. Because at the end of the day, it's still about magic animals cock-fighting under the control of children and teenagers! It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
And on the player-character issue? I was never Red. Not even in Generation 1 (when, for my sins played played Gen 1 & 2 on *gasp* emulators in university*). I shout at the screen far too often - and from the very start, my team had their own personalities quirks...! (Re-booted in Gen III when I started playing "properly..!") The voiceless non-reacting thing never sits well with me at the best of times. So Red fails as a character insert. (I've never read the manga, either.)
So Generations doesn't work for me, not like the trailer for B2W2, which was... Yeah! I think that's why we got XY as good as we did, because, like, everyone asked "why can't THIS be the main series?" - and we seemed to pretty much get the main series made into that, so...
(XY is spoiling me, certainly, on animation quality, as well, Generations doesn't seem to be anything like the same level, which doesn't help, either. (And I winced rather a lot at the trailers for the Sun/Moon anime. On first blush, it looks like from the sublime to riduculous and in this case, the phrase nearly literall applied...!)
It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
But the episodes so far haven't even been that dark and gritty. At most there was episode 2 which made the world seem a bit more realistic than how it's usually portrayed with them actually doing a police raid on the Viridian gym, but even then what exactly was so dark and gritty about it? That Looker's police squad is geared up like a SWAT team?
So I'm going to guess that these episodes will be going in chronological order (or in episode 1's case, it started at the earliest point). From Red in Viridian Forest catching a Pikachu, to the aftermath of the Viridian Gym battle, to Blue becoming Champion right before Red challenges him, to the Lake of Rage incident and storming Team Rocket's hideout. And I know some games take place around the same time, like DP happening at the same time as GS. I mean we go from gen to gen in order with the events of each gen happening chronologically.
Though I suppose they're not all necessarily in the same continuity to begin with if Red in episode 1 has a Bulbasaur while Blue in episode 3 has a Blastoise, meaning Red should've chosen a Charmander
Also, I've heard there's going to be 18 episodes for this series. So possibly 3 episodes per gen, not including VII since it'd just be starting and will be getting the main anime's attention anyway, with episode 1 counting as part of gen 1.
Donkarasu: Complaining about TPCI skipping SM064 means they also watch the dub version or they are people who only watch the dub, but are aware of every episode when they air in Japan and thus where wanting to see this episode dubbed and got upset it was banned.
Mar 26, 2019 3:26:04 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Yes, there where people who only watched the original complained about it too, but they're just a part of it.
Mar 26, 2019 17:37:01 GMT -4
Donkarasu: So I understand going against those who made something controversial or are horrible people, but there's no justifying doing it to a good person who's work is innocent simply because you don't like it. You can hate the work without insulting the creator.
Mar 26, 2019 19:13:53 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: And I'll add on that just because one group is loud and pointlessly angry doesn't mean you have to stoop to their level to counter it.
Mar 26, 2019 23:23:44 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Agreed, it's better to just ignore the criticism than letting it get to you. And this also leads to people trying to force new viewers not to watch a certain version of a show simply because they don't like it. Fuck off and let folks decide for themselves.
Mar 27, 2019 17:29:16 GMT -4
pkfan: Hey guys I'm planning on doing a Pokemon crossover story with Deadpool, due to the 'Detective Pikach' movie coming out and I was wandering if you guys would have any suggestions for me to use in the story.
Mar 28, 2019 20:41:14 GMT -4
pkfan: I mean first off I am going to have Wade completely destroy the fourth wall, and the stuff he's going to say about the franchise and the fanbase as a whole, trust me nothing will be off limits. The title is going to be called 'Alola to The Merc' so yeah.
Mar 28, 2019 20:43:31 GMT -4
pkfan: like I said I'm open to any ideas for the story.
Mar 28, 2019 20:44:00 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Well we haven't really ever covered fanfiction here, but I say that if you have an idea you wanna use, then by all means go for it. Though I say try not to have the satire overtake the plot, it should be used as a supplement after all.
Mar 29, 2019 9:00:54 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Though also you should make sure to post it there instead of here if you do write it out.
Mar 29, 2019 9:01:45 GMT -4
pkfan: Oh trust me I'm going to post it there and as for plot... no comment on that one.
Mar 31, 2019 21:30:07 GMT -4
Donkarasu: People can hate silly things without acting like they are offended by it. It's not that hard.
Apr 1, 2019 17:15:54 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: The flaws of XY and XYZ were many, and there's too many to count. The whole reason I believe that transformation exists is because they had recently used the Ash's Charizard card and he had no mega-capable Pokemon on him, and generation 6's gimmick was
Apr 1, 2019 23:27:34 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: super saiyan transformations, and Greninja was popular (Heck I like the frog and his transformation still; characters and mon's can't decide to be overwhelmingly popular) enough that the writer's be like "Lol, we dun goofed. Gen 7 is coming and we
Apr 1, 2019 23:28:45 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: "Fiddled around procrastinating long enough. We write ourselves into a corner so just give the Frog super saiyan powers and lets wrap this up quickly so we can move onto gen 7."
Apr 1, 2019 23:29:55 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Was more of a major pacing issue and they learned their lessons with the Sun and Moon anime. I can only hope that they don't drop the ball now and honestly have the audience feel like there has been true progression on Ash's journey by the end of it.
Apr 1, 2019 23:32:17 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: I have to say, the Bewear Kite comedy in the most recent episode was pure gold!
Apr 15, 2019 12:07:19 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: You know, I love the clever nod to the games where Ryuki mentions the problems with his baby-like face which is why he hides it the way like we see. However, while it isn't really brought up here, the way his actual eyes are shown does show that youthful
Apr 22, 2019 10:12:55 GMT -4