Post by SeriousJupiter on Feb 25, 2016 20:00:00 GMT -4
Pokémon Sun and Moon? Nice. I was wondering what sort of legendaries they could possibly come up with after Land, Sea, Sky, Time, Space, God, Devil, Truth, Ideals, Life, Death and Balance, but it seems I was worried over nothing. I just hope the Sun and Moon legendaries won't be equines, because that most likely wouldn't end well.
Post by Donkarasu on Sept 13, 2016 17:10:27 GMT -4
The Pokémon Company has announced a new series of shorts called Pokémon Generations. These shorts will go live on Youtube weekly through to December 23rd 2016 and will last 3 to 5 minutes. They will feature various timeless moments from each generation of Pokémon games. Pokémon Generations is to consist of 18 episodes. The first two launch September 16th
Post by SeriousJupiter on Sept 17, 2016 12:49:49 GMT -4
Goddamnit, don't tell me the only player character we're going to see in these is Red. That first video certainly looked that way. I hope I'm wrong, because I can't stand Red's fans. Reading that video's comments was torture. Why can't those morons realize that Red is not a real character like Ash, because WE, the players, are all Red. That's why he was allowed to use his whole team against Gym Leaders and how he beat the Elite Four so easily in Pokémon Origins. If he had been following the same anime rules as Ash, Brock and Giovanni (and presumably every other Gym Leader as well) would have kicked his cheating ass multiple times over. The whole point of Pokémon Origins was to show what the anime would be like if it worked exactly like the games, and that's exactly why those fucking Redsuckers shouldn't compare it to the main series.
Anyway... Assuming that Red won't be the only player character who will appear in these videos and that I will have the willpower to not read the comments, I might actually enjoy Pokémon Generations. The first two episodes weren't really bad at all. Reading the comments just pissed me off so much that I had to vent.
Ash has had a couple of gym battles where they used a different amount than the leader. He needed a full team to beat Roxie, and 3 Pokemon to defeat Grant's 2. His rematch with Whitney was 3 on 1. And Haunter in Ash's rematch against Sabrina was at worst counted as Ash's second Pokemon against Kadabra when he was already using Pikachu, and at best a third party that still influenced Ash earning a badge.
And I don't think the player characters will really be showcased outside of maybe cameos. I think the point of Generations will be to showcase events from other characters' perspectives. In the first episode's case, we never really get a good look at Red's face, it's usually shadowed, covered, or turned away. The focus was on his Pikachu, and the point of using Red for all six generations was just to indicate that it's the same Pikachu going through all these things. Since it's episode 1, it's possibly also supposed to be symbolic of Generations as a whole that it'll be going through the various generations. We the players will be going through everything, or already have, just like Pikachu.
So best case scenario, we'd probably get minor appearances of other player characters in shorts that focus on rival characters. Like we know Red will show up in the short about how Blue became champion (not sure if we'll even see their battle or if it'll just be about only what we didn't see). Maybe stuff like some focus on Silver like as he's rethinking his way with some mentions or visuals on his battles with Gold/Ethan, or how Wally got through Victory Road and ends up meeting Brendan/May at the end. Or in the case of other supporting characters, since we do know we'll see Cheryl in one short we might see what she was up to in Eterna Forest right before meeting with Lucas/Dawn.
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Post by Aotrs Commander on Sept 24, 2016 15:44:52 GMT -4
Can't say as I'm very struck with Generations, myself. Aside from the not-being-the-anime... There's no investment in the characters. The battles... are bleh because they don't show anything than more than one attack. It all smacks a bit too much to me of shouting "look how cool I iz" over anything else. Or at the very least, taking itself FAR to seriously. Because at the end of the day, it's still about magic animals cock-fighting under the control of children and teenagers! It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
And on the player-character issue? I was never Red. Not even in Generation 1 (when, for my sins played played Gen 1 & 2 on *gasp* emulators in university*). I shout at the screen far too often - and from the very start, my team had their own personalities quirks...! (Re-booted in Gen III when I started playing "properly..!") The voiceless non-reacting thing never sits well with me at the best of times. So Red fails as a character insert. (I've never read the manga, either.)
So Generations doesn't work for me, not like the trailer for B2W2, which was... Yeah! I think that's why we got XY as good as we did, because, like, everyone asked "why can't THIS be the main series?" - and we seemed to pretty much get the main series made into that, so...
(XY is spoiling me, certainly, on animation quality, as well, Generations doesn't seem to be anything like the same level, which doesn't help, either. (And I winced rather a lot at the trailers for the Sun/Moon anime. On first blush, it looks like from the sublime to riduculous and in this case, the phrase nearly literall applied...!)
It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
But the episodes so far haven't even been that dark and gritty. At most there was episode 2 which made the world seem a bit more realistic than how it's usually portrayed with them actually doing a police raid on the Viridian gym, but even then what exactly was so dark and gritty about it? That Looker's police squad is geared up like a SWAT team?
So I'm going to guess that these episodes will be going in chronological order (or in episode 1's case, it started at the earliest point). From Red in Viridian Forest catching a Pikachu, to the aftermath of the Viridian Gym battle, to Blue becoming Champion right before Red challenges him, to the Lake of Rage incident and storming Team Rocket's hideout. And I know some games take place around the same time, like DP happening at the same time as GS. I mean we go from gen to gen in order with the events of each gen happening chronologically.
Though I suppose they're not all necessarily in the same continuity to begin with if Red in episode 1 has a Bulbasaur while Blue in episode 3 has a Blastoise, meaning Red should've chosen a Charmander
Also, I've heard there's going to be 18 episodes for this series. So possibly 3 episodes per gen, not including VII since it'd just be starting and will be getting the main anime's attention anyway, with episode 1 counting as part of gen 1.
ShiningStarlia: I remember her voicing a blind kid who was healed by Fat Buu back in Z. And that must've been like, almost 20 years ago I think!
Dec 6, 2018 0:08:07 GMT -4
Donkarasu: It's funny, despite Ribrianne getting so much hate (not me, I think she's an entertaining character and love the Magical Girl parody Toei added with her and her team mates) people were excited to hear that Veronica Taylor was voicing Ribrianne.
Dec 6, 2018 6:04:19 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: In a way though. I personally have no problem with her and think her magical girl parody is hilarious and her transformation is meant to look hideous that even in-universe Vegeta couldn't bring himself to punch her when she tried to use Rollout on him.
Dec 8, 2018 0:28:31 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Though considering how much screentime she soaks up, I can see where most of the complaints come from. Then again, one can say the same thing about the Saiyans (U6 and U7) so who am I to complain? Haha.
Dec 8, 2018 0:29:21 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: I think the forum's banner pic should be changed to Tsareena's butt closeup from today's episode. Pokemopolis thrives on easy-to-take-out-of-context stuff like that.
Dec 8, 2018 18:08:39 GMT -4
Donkarasu: So have been hearing Movie 21 has a heart warming story, it's not another movie that shoehorns in a Mythical and/or Legendary Pokémon for the sake of views, but rather their use in the plot is respectable, all characters get to do something notable, etc.
Dec 9, 2018 9:41:38 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: While that's true, it did still default to the whole "mythical/legendary hates humans until it meets Ash and friends" formula. Some parts of the old formula just had to stick around.
Dec 10, 2018 21:52:31 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Everything else was fresh and well-done, though. And though I trash the music (the only weak point of the movie, and boy is it an Achilles' Heel; that is except for the dub's ending song), the movie itself is spectacular.
Dec 10, 2018 21:54:07 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Actual so-called-music that deserves to be called "noise" is whatever 4kids used in their dub for One Piece. Music you don't like, but can still clearly hear the instruments, should be called "bad music", calling it "noise" is just a petty insult.
Dec 14, 2018 12:09:50 GMT -4
Donkarasu: There were no instruments used for the 4kids' One Piece dub music, it was all synthesizers.
Dec 14, 2018 12:13:09 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Also that dub of that thing which when I showed Ryu the Japanese verison of long ago he said it was fine, but when I brought it up again, Ryu got all aggressive and started saying the original version was bad, despite the dub having all the flaws.
Dec 14, 2018 12:17:09 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: You never showed me that thing any more than once. And also, you showed me it in a failed attempt to make me like something about the JP version.
Dec 14, 2018 12:29:39 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Yes I did actually, I showed it to you to show you that when the narrator started singing it wasn't like in Brother Bear, like you thought (when the song was put over one character explaining something to another) but rather she was singing with them.
Dec 14, 2018 18:16:26 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Only you believe it was to get you to like the original, while I was just correcting your misinformation.
Dec 14, 2018 18:18:09 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: That first time was just a correction (and back then, the JP version hadn't fully earned my utter abhorrence). The second time was an attempt to sway me.
Dec 14, 2018 19:35:55 GMT -4
Donkarasu: No it wasn't, it was me having to get this thing out of my mind and so the best way was to let it out and share my thoughts with others. I mean by that logic, I guess you telling me that Popplio says "Arwoo" and Ashimari doesn't is you forcing me to like
Dec 15, 2018 6:14:45 GMT -4
Donkarasu: the dub voice and sway me away from the Japanese one, despite the fact that Popplio only goes "Pop! Pop!" and I have listen to Ashimari's voice more than enough to fully confirm it says what I said it does. But don't worry, I won't make that assumption.
Dec 15, 2018 6:26:40 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Oh and by the way, I do like the dub voice, but for a different reason from why I like the Japanese one.
Dec 15, 2018 6:30:30 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: All in all that was a good two parter: wish it lasted longer! And as for Dragonball Super, goodness it was great hearing Veronica Taylor again. She used bits of her May voice in the most recent dub episode.
Dec 16, 2018 12:35:04 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: HUGE dub-related news: Matori's dub name (or rather, only name since the dub kept her name as Matori) has finally been said in a dub episode.
Dec 16, 2018 18:51:11 GMT -4