Post by SeriousJupiter on Feb 25, 2016 20:00:00 GMT -4
Pokémon Sun and Moon? Nice. I was wondering what sort of legendaries they could possibly come up with after Land, Sea, Sky, Time, Space, God, Devil, Truth, Ideals, Life, Death and Balance, but it seems I was worried over nothing. I just hope the Sun and Moon legendaries won't be equines, because that most likely wouldn't end well.
Post by Donkarasu on Sept 13, 2016 17:10:27 GMT -4
The Pokémon Company has announced a new series of shorts called Pokémon Generations. These shorts will go live on Youtube weekly through to December 23rd 2016 and will last 3 to 5 minutes. They will feature various timeless moments from each generation of Pokémon games. Pokémon Generations is to consist of 18 episodes. The first two launch September 16th
Post by SeriousJupiter on Sept 17, 2016 12:49:49 GMT -4
Goddamnit, don't tell me the only player character we're going to see in these is Red. That first video certainly looked that way. I hope I'm wrong, because I can't stand Red's fans. Reading that video's comments was torture. Why can't those morons realize that Red is not a real character like Ash, because WE, the players, are all Red. That's why he was allowed to use his whole team against Gym Leaders and how he beat the Elite Four so easily in Pokémon Origins. If he had been following the same anime rules as Ash, Brock and Giovanni (and presumably every other Gym Leader as well) would have kicked his cheating ass multiple times over. The whole point of Pokémon Origins was to show what the anime would be like if it worked exactly like the games, and that's exactly why those fucking Redsuckers shouldn't compare it to the main series.
Anyway... Assuming that Red won't be the only player character who will appear in these videos and that I will have the willpower to not read the comments, I might actually enjoy Pokémon Generations. The first two episodes weren't really bad at all. Reading the comments just pissed me off so much that I had to vent.
Ash has had a couple of gym battles where they used a different amount than the leader. He needed a full team to beat Roxie, and 3 Pokemon to defeat Grant's 2. His rematch with Whitney was 3 on 1. And Haunter in Ash's rematch against Sabrina was at worst counted as Ash's second Pokemon against Kadabra when he was already using Pikachu, and at best a third party that still influenced Ash earning a badge.
And I don't think the player characters will really be showcased outside of maybe cameos. I think the point of Generations will be to showcase events from other characters' perspectives. In the first episode's case, we never really get a good look at Red's face, it's usually shadowed, covered, or turned away. The focus was on his Pikachu, and the point of using Red for all six generations was just to indicate that it's the same Pikachu going through all these things. Since it's episode 1, it's possibly also supposed to be symbolic of Generations as a whole that it'll be going through the various generations. We the players will be going through everything, or already have, just like Pikachu.
So best case scenario, we'd probably get minor appearances of other player characters in shorts that focus on rival characters. Like we know Red will show up in the short about how Blue became champion (not sure if we'll even see their battle or if it'll just be about only what we didn't see). Maybe stuff like some focus on Silver like as he's rethinking his way with some mentions or visuals on his battles with Gold/Ethan, or how Wally got through Victory Road and ends up meeting Brendan/May at the end. Or in the case of other supporting characters, since we do know we'll see Cheryl in one short we might see what she was up to in Eterna Forest right before meeting with Lucas/Dawn.
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Post by Aotrs Commander on Sept 24, 2016 15:44:52 GMT -4
Can't say as I'm very struck with Generations, myself. Aside from the not-being-the-anime... There's no investment in the characters. The battles... are bleh because they don't show anything than more than one attack. It all smacks a bit too much to me of shouting "look how cool I iz" over anything else. Or at the very least, taking itself FAR to seriously. Because at the end of the day, it's still about magic animals cock-fighting under the control of children and teenagers! It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
And on the player-character issue? I was never Red. Not even in Generation 1 (when, for my sins played played Gen 1 & 2 on *gasp* emulators in university*). I shout at the screen far too often - and from the very start, my team had their own personalities quirks...! (Re-booted in Gen III when I started playing "properly..!") The voiceless non-reacting thing never sits well with me at the best of times. So Red fails as a character insert. (I've never read the manga, either.)
So Generations doesn't work for me, not like the trailer for B2W2, which was... Yeah! I think that's why we got XY as good as we did, because, like, everyone asked "why can't THIS be the main series?" - and we seemed to pretty much get the main series made into that, so...
(XY is spoiling me, certainly, on animation quality, as well, Generations doesn't seem to be anything like the same level, which doesn't help, either. (And I winced rather a lot at the trailers for the Sun/Moon anime. On first blush, it looks like from the sublime to riduculous and in this case, the phrase nearly literall applied...!)
It feels like they are trying for "more adult" in the worst possible way, y'know. Pokémon is not suited for a dark and gritty reboot in my opinion. (I'm definitely MC, not DCU, as it were.)
But the episodes so far haven't even been that dark and gritty. At most there was episode 2 which made the world seem a bit more realistic than how it's usually portrayed with them actually doing a police raid on the Viridian gym, but even then what exactly was so dark and gritty about it? That Looker's police squad is geared up like a SWAT team?
So I'm going to guess that these episodes will be going in chronological order (or in episode 1's case, it started at the earliest point). From Red in Viridian Forest catching a Pikachu, to the aftermath of the Viridian Gym battle, to Blue becoming Champion right before Red challenges him, to the Lake of Rage incident and storming Team Rocket's hideout. And I know some games take place around the same time, like DP happening at the same time as GS. I mean we go from gen to gen in order with the events of each gen happening chronologically.
Though I suppose they're not all necessarily in the same continuity to begin with if Red in episode 1 has a Bulbasaur while Blue in episode 3 has a Blastoise, meaning Red should've chosen a Charmander
Also, I've heard there's going to be 18 episodes for this series. So possibly 3 episodes per gen, not including VII since it'd just be starting and will be getting the main anime's attention anyway, with episode 1 counting as part of gen 1.
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Sorry, it's just that after SM021 and M21, I know Mima's gonna be three for three when it comes to terribly mishandling emotional moments.
Feb 9, 2019 18:50:46 GMT -4
Donkarasu: But at least you're fine with episode 79, because you've never said anything about it.
Feb 9, 2019 19:02:38 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: That was a lucky case of not bad but the dub did better.
Feb 9, 2019 19:09:02 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Masafumi Mima said he got goosebumps when selecting the music for a certain episode and even the voice actors were brought to tears, I'm certain it was indeed episode 108 that he was talking about: twitter.com/Sunma47/status/1073896011758587909
Feb 9, 2019 19:12:11 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: That's fine and good for them. Mima's just unfortunately given me lots of reasons not to trust his music placement skills (actually, lack thereof).
Feb 9, 2019 22:39:49 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: Looks like I'm right not to have believed him when he promised I'd cry at the onscreen events. But I can give him a bit of credit: it turned out better than SM021 and M21 did, so that's a relief.
Feb 10, 2019 10:26:25 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: It ended up with the same results SM079JP did: a "well, okay, that happened. Can't wait for the dub to improve it" kind of feeling.
Feb 10, 2019 10:27:06 GMT -4
Ryu Taylor, Dub Lover: BTW, I watched it in the first place just because of how cocky Mima was about it.
Feb 10, 2019 18:07:31 GMT -4
Donkarasu: I'm just going to say it now: I will not be happy when TPCI fills the silent moments with music. Silence is needed especially in tear-jerking episodes as it helps set the mood for a depressing atmosphere (it's hard to describe, so I tried my best).
Feb 11, 2019 5:46:51 GMT -4
Donkarasu: It's more Reina Ueda's voice acting as Mao (I can't believe anyone who thinks she wasn't amazing) and the dialogue and less so the background music used which makes those scenes so heart breaking and caused me and others to cry or tear up.
Feb 12, 2019 10:04:15 GMT -4
Donkarasu: While I said I wasn't going to talk about the whole controversy around Vic Mignogna, I do want to say one thing about it and that's, it kind puts me off anything to do with Funimation, especially due to other voice actors being involved in this.
Feb 17, 2019 8:44:25 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: That is my biggest grief behind it. They honestly shouldn't of said anything at all, rather than outright lashing at fans that disagree with them.
Feb 17, 2019 19:44:19 GMT -4
Donkarasu: Regarding Sean Schemmel being the latest person to be a part of it, that causes me to say this: Even if you're not a fan of Masako Nozawa's Goku voice, at least she's a kind woman who respects fans and has never caused any sort of controversy.
Feb 18, 2019 13:03:11 GMT -4
Donkarasu: And for the record, this is not the only time Schemmel did/said something which caused some outrage.
Feb 18, 2019 13:04:46 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: Yeah, I'm aware. His past sins have come to light and while I was able to tolerate a lot of it, his latest episode was were the line in the sand has been crossed. Cancelled Funimation account as well.
Feb 18, 2019 23:00:57 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: If he's gonna be an arrogant butt that insults the hands that feed him, then he'll have to accept the consequences of it and hopefully that'll stick. Still yeah. I was never annoyed with Nozawa's Goku voice and she is really nice.
Feb 18, 2019 23:03:51 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: I mean, Goku's supposed to sound like a disrespectful county hic (remember his inspiration from Journey of the West which the Monkey King routinely pissed off the gods)
Feb 18, 2019 23:05:54 GMT -4
ShiningStarlia: and I think most complaints stem from just different tastes in vocals from us overseas. I honestly wonder why people make a really big deal out of it. Not everyone is Norio Wakamoto
Feb 18, 2019 23:07:38 GMT -4